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Patentni zahtevki

OdgovorNapisal/-a mallek » 26.1.2006 18:44

Spoštovani,

Sem novinec na področju patentov ter me zanima, kako naj z patentnimi zahtevki najbolje zaščitim svoje pravice.

Vem da je v veliki meri odvisno od vsebine zahtevkov, vendar se mi zdi, da je v teh zahtevkih lahko zelo veliko "lukenj", na katere se nato negdo opira oziroma izgovarja, to je, da si zaradi pomanjkljivosti v zahtevkih priredi "pravice" sebi v prid.

Prosim, če mi lahko podate kak nasvet glede pisanja samih zahtevkov, na kaj vse moram biti pozoren, in katere so tiste skrite pravniške luknje?

Za vsako mnenje, opozorilo, debato ter kakšen koli nasvet se vam vnaprej zahvaljujem.

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OdgovorNapisal/-a silogy » 27.1.2006 21:42

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OdgovorNapisal/-a silogy » 27.1.2006 23:20

pa še tole;

Za tiste, ki jih zanima, bom se na kratko , kako izgleda patentna prijava. Prijava je (obicajno) sestavljena iz treh delov: opisa, slik in patentnih zahtevkov. Slike so opcija, zahtevki obvezni, saj so oni tisto, kar doloca podrocje pravne zascite. Zahtevke lahko razdelimo po kategorijah in dve glavni kategoriji sta sta metoda (ozrioma proces) in aparat. Zahtevki se nato delijo se na neodvisne in odvisne. V vsaki kategoriji je lahko le en neodvisen zahtevek v tem neodvisnem zahtevku je podano bistvo izuma in doloca najsirsi doseg patenta. Vsi ostali zahtevki le se dodajajo lastnosti in podrobnosti, ki pa zato zgolj pokrivajo razne variacije znotraj osnovnega podrocja patenta. Kljub temu, da obstajajo razlicne kategorije, morajo zahtevki med seboj sovpadati. Zahtevki za metodo morajo torej vsebovati iste elemente kot zahtevki za aparat. Zahtevki za metodo so obicajno formulirani kot koraki (npr: A method for ... comprising the the steps of: ...), medtem ko so zahtevki za aparat formuliranin kot sredstva (npr.: An apparatus for ... comprising: means for ...).
Iz zgoraj zapisanega sledi, da je algoritme (metode) mozno patentirati ze zelo dolgo, saj niso vezani zgolj na programsko opremo. Izvesti se jih da tudi z elektronskimi ali mehanskimi sredstvi.

Computer program product

Poleg prej omenjenih kategorij patentnih zahtevkov pa obstajajo se ostale. Na mojem podrocju zahtevkom za metodo in aparat pogosto sledi se neodvisni zahtevek za 'a computer program product according to a method of claim 1'. Kaksna je razlika, ce tak zahtevek dovolis ali ne? Z vidika novosti in inventivnosti zadeva ni sporna. Ce je claim 1 nov in inventiven (kar sta osnovna pogoja za odobritev patenta), potem je tak tudi zahtevek za program. Razlika nastopi kasneje. Tak zahtevek ne pomeni, da nihce ne sme napisati programa, ki bi izvajal patentirano metodo. Sicer obstajajo razlike med patentnimi pravi posameznih drzav, vendar za namen preucevanja, ucenja, testiranja, izboljsevanja, etc. lahko naceloma vsakdo uporablja patentirano metodo. To je pravzaprav eden od osnovnih namenov patentnega sistema - sirjenje in bogatenje zakladnice znanja. Patent pa naj bi omogocal, da lastnik prepreci drugim, da bi na osnovi patentirane metode nekdo drug koval dobicek. Sicer nisem patentni odvetnik in ne poznam vseh skrivnosti zivljenja patenta po odobritvi vendar gredo stvari priblizno takole: ce nimas zascitenega 'program procuct'-a, potem bi lahko na sodiscih preganjal zgolj in samo 'end user'-je, medtem, ko bi preprodajalci, ki bi imeli na zalogi tisoce kopij programske opreme, bili nedosegljvi. Seveda pa se je treba zavedati, da tudi ce kodo, ki implementira patentirano metodo postavis na neki server in je zato dosegljiva vsakomur, lahko predstavlja 'indirect infringment', ceprav sam nimas namena kode prodajati in z njo zasluziti. Vendar so tudi tukaj lahko razlike med patentnimi pravi posameznih drzav (ali imajo sploh pravno definiran pojem posredne krsitve), kar pa zadevo samo komplicira.
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OdgovorNapisal/-a Mariborca-n » 28.1.2006 1:19

Mene pa zanima kako je s tem če ti predstaviš svoje delo v obliki članka ali uradnem listu ali kot dplomsko delo recimo čez dve leti pa zveš da je nekdo to isto stvar patentiral.

A lahko izpodbijaš in dokažeš da si sam lastnik ideje ali je lastnik ideje tisti ki prvi patentira?
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OdgovorNapisal/-a mallek » 28.1.2006 12:59

žal, mislim da dostikrat lastnik patenta in izumitelj patenta ni ista oseba, pa ne zaradi prodaje patenta.


http://www.strojnistvo.com/viewtopic.ph ... &&start=15

težko je naknadno dokazovati in sodno (če pravilno razumem samostojno - na lastno pest) preganjati nekoga, ki te prehiti z vlogo patentne prijave, patentni urad ne izvaja vsebinskega preizkusa, novosti - inovativnosti izuma.


p.s.: ima gdo izkušnje z pisanjem (bolje rečeno, z pomanjkljivostmi) patentnih zahtevkov,

p.s.(2): hvala silogy

Five More Misconceptions About Patents
1. I have a “Poor Man’s Patent” so I am entitled to stop others from “taking my invention”.

Only an issued patent can be used to keep others from copying your invention. The "poor mans patent", sending yourself a sealed envelope, is only useful to prove a date of conception.

2. My invention is worth lots of money because it is patented.
Many, if not most, patents are worthless. If the patent has very narrow claims, it could be easy to design around, and if it has broad claims, it could be hard to design around. This and many other factors affect the worth of a patent.

3. I am not infringing his patent because I changed my design more than ten percent from his patent.
If your device has each and every element of any claim in an issued patent, you are infringing. There is no ten percent rule.

4. I cannot infringe his patent because I didn’t know about it.

There is no intent requirement for patent infringement. If your device has each and every element of any claim in an issued patent, you are infringing.

5. My invention is patented so I have to keep it a secret or I will lose it.

[b]Once the patent issues, it is a public document, and anyone can access it. The time to keep an invention secret is the time before the patent application is filed
. [/b]
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OdgovorNapisal/-a Mariborca-n » 28.1.2006 17:05

A je res tako črno-belo to da če objaviš prvi v kakšni uradni listini neko idejo pol pa ti jo nekdo čez čas patentira da ima on vse pravice kaj se tičejo te ideje?

Skoraj prepričan sem da lahko to z dokazom da si pred njim govoril o tej isti ideji to spodbijaš?

Vrjetno se razsoja potem ali ti je on dejansko ukradel idejo ali je nekej na drugem koncu sveta pač sam isto pogruntal?

Vrjetno ti priznajo da si bil prvi samo ker nisi patentno se zaščitil pa vrjetno nekdo drug kljub temu lahko služi na tvoj račun?

Najbolj smešno pa bi mi bilo recimo to da izumiš novo vrsto motorja in ga v mali seriji proizvajaš čez čaz pa to patentira recimo marcedez pa ti prepove proizvodnjo.

Kot izumitelj si priznan pravic pa nimaš nad svojim izumom?

Take otračarije se vrjetno ne gredo s patenti ali je res tako črno-belo?
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OdgovorNapisal/-a mallek » 28.1.2006 22:35

To, da lahko izpodbijaš patetno prijavo za izum, ki ga je prijavil negdo drug, ne pa izumitelj, pomeni da izkoristiš prednostno pravico.

Kolikor jaz vem, upošteva patentni urad za "uradno listino" oziroma prednostno pravico le nekaj najbolj svetovno znanih revij, kjer so objavljeni članki "znanstvenikov-raziskovalcev" z Dr. Mag. in nevem kakimi nazivi (zelo zelo malo slovenskih člankov v teh revijah; mislim da so to revije Science, Nature ipd), ter le nekaj mednarodnih razstav, med katerimi niti približno ni nobene slovenske razstave-sejma. Vse ostalo ne šteje in ni (zadosten) dokaz!

torej, če je negdo prijavil izum - patent, se šteje, da ga je izumil (on ali skupina). Razen če je "pravi" izumitelj razkril svoj izum na enem izmed teh redkih sejmov ali s člankom v eni izmed teh redkih revij. Lahko imaš delujoč prototip - izdelek doma že nekaj časa, celo v maloseriji (kot je navedeno), pa vseno ne moreš izpodbijati podeljenega patenta, niti vložene prijave za podelitev patenta, kjer je naveden kot izumitelj (lažni, ampak uradni) negdo drug.

Črno - belo, barvno, vseeno, TAK JE!

Pa še to, motorji so zeeelo delikatna zadeva, še bolj pa patenti v zvezi z njimi. Trenutno je NAFTA sveta vladar, zato lahko kdor koli izumi nevem kak motor, tudi na zrak;) pa ga bo vseeno naftni lobi požrl, živega in celega.

na Shell-ovem tekmovanju v Zurichu so predstavili vozilo, ki prevozi 100km z le 7,04 g vodika (primerljivo z približno 0,026 litra običajnega goriva- benzina), torej prevozi z enim litrom goriva 3836km ter s 15 litri obkroži svet. Zakaj ga ni na tržišču???????
moram še res enkrat napisat?

Da ne govorim o drugih motorjih na različne baterije, gorivne celice in druge "alternativen" vire energije.

O tej temi, bi sigurno vedel dosti povedat g. Koderman.


JA, lahko se zgodi, da isti izum nehote prijavita dve osebi, tedaj velja, kdor prvi prijavi, edini melje!
NE, niti kot izumitelj nisi priznan.
JA, absolutno ti lahko prepovejo tržiti "svoj" izum, ki pa ga je patentiral negdo drug. Izum lahko sicer uporabljaš za in edino lastne namene, ne da bi jim moral plačati licenco, če že maš delujoč motor naprimer.

To niso glih otročarije, to je razultat kapitalizma! ja, je zeleno in črno $, saj izvira iz amerike, bolje rečeno patent so izumili amerikanci (naftaši)
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OdgovorNapisal/-a Mariborca-n » 29.1.2006 0:27

Če bi bil moj izum se nebi dal tako lahko.

Nisem pravnik samo klko vem o pravu se ga da zvijat, izrabljat, prirejat, z njim dokazat da če ispustiš kroglo na zemljo da nebo padla na tla ampak bo jo odneslo navzgor...

Ampak služi pa tudi pravici in mislim da človek z dobrimi argumenti ima vedno možnost da dokaže svojo neizpodbitno pravico.

Svet je pa tudi velik po drugi strani in pravo ene države ne seže povsod. Kjer zataji eno sodišče se vedno najde drugo pač vztrajen moraš bit.

Mislim da te prej uniči kakšna politika kot pa patent.

Dobro se mi zdi da se sprašujemo ta vprašanja ker če se kdaj znajdeš v taki situaciji je dobro da si malo seznanjen z vsem skupaj.

Situacija ni rožnata če te nategne kak okoristnik ali korporacija mislim pa vseeno da je možnost da se zavaruješ proti temu s predhodnimi koraki tud če ni konkretno to patent.

Če te imajo namen zlorabit bodo naredili vse pomoje, da te bodo zato moraš v tej situaciji delovati trezno in s pomočjo strokovnjaka.

Absolutne zaščite pa pomoje ni, ker tudi patent ti ne nudi tega ker lahko ti nekaj patentiraš pa v državi kjer ne veljajo te določbe tega kratkomalo ne upoštevajo in preko političnih pritiskov se še kje kot kompromis lahko pomoje izdelek pojavi tudi v državi kjer je zaščiten.

Politične igrice pač.

Mislim pa da izumiteljev nebi smelo bit strah svojih izumov postaviti na ogled, ker mislim, da če si prvi in objaviš to v kaki ugledni reviji ali uradnem dokumentu da ti nihče ne more dokazat da to ni tvoj izum.

Prej se jaz bojim nečesa drugega da lahko tvoj izum povozi čas ali ga nadomesti alternativa ali prirejena različica tvojega izuma.

Zakaj še pa ni vozil kot si napisal na naših cestah?

Mislim da ni edini problem tukaj cena nafte, ker cena goriv ki jo mi plačujemo je bistveno višja od cene surove nafte katera je praktično zastojn in je stvar dogovora.

Problem je v tem da pri vseh drugih virih energije moramo vložit določeno količino energije da ga proizvedeno medtem ko pri nafti pač zvrtamo luknjo v zemljo in to je to.

Prihaja čas alternativ pomoje ampak počasi. Ogromno energije in denarja pa se mora vložiti tudi v izgradnjo novih tehnologij, tovarn, infrastrukture in to nikomur ni v interesu ker bi ga dosedanja ureditev preprosto uničila in mu ne dala dihati.

To je ideološki problem pomoje in ko bo čas za novo ideologijo mislim da bo premagala tud te vsem dobro znane kapitalistične zakone in bo gledala malo bolj dolgoročno.

Sam kdo si bo pa to upal če je že na začetku obsojen na propad? Nevem. Čas bo našel odgovor na to počasi in vztrajno.

Če bi imel sam dober izum ki bi ga nameraval tržit pa bi ga tudi patentno zaščitil to vem. Zakaj? Ker je pač eden od korakov na tej poti. Če ga nebi imel namena tržiti pa ga nebi zaščitil ampak bi se zavaroval z ustreznimi uradnimi objavami da sem jaz neizpodbitni avtor tega izuma in to bi mi bilo dovolj.

Torej zaključek. Patent da če imaš namen ga tržiti drugače ti nič ne pomeni.

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OdgovorNapisal/-a mallek » 29.1.2006 18:07

Hvala za vaše razmišljanje.

Tega, da absolutne zaščite izuma ni se zavedam. Konzorciji v posamezni gospodarski panogi so pripravljeni izkoristiti vsako pomanjkljivost gospodarskega prava oziroma zakona o intelektualni lestnini.

Izogibajo se sodelovanja s posamezniki (izumitelji), saj tudi sami vlagajo v razvoj. Brez podeljenega patenta ali vsaj vložene prijave za podelitev patenta skorajda ni možno, da bi kako podjetje šlo v sodelovanje s kakim posameznikom.

V primeru sodelovanja se koristijo pogodbe o nerazkritju izuma oziroma avotrske pogodbe o uporabi izuma oziroma tehnične iboljšave.

Sodelovanje ni možno, če za ni izum vložena vsaj prijava na uradu. Z podpisom pogodbe o nerazkritju si hoče podjetje zagotoviti prednost pred konkurenco.

Res pa je, da je vse odvisno, ali negdo hoče kaj zalužiti od izuma, ali mu je dovolj le objava v medijih.

Meni se zdi, da inženirji, študenti in tudi vsi ostali, premalo razglabljamo o teh stvareh, in smo premalo poučeni o samem pisanju prijave.

Na fakulteti moraš vedet npr. pri gospodarskem pravu, kaj je patent, keter so sestavine prijave, licence, pogodbe, idt, vendar vse ostane pri sami definiciji elementa - postopka.

Nihče te ne opozori na pomanjkljivosti zahtevkov, niti kako se jih napiše. Na uradu je o zahtevkih napisanega zelo malo, le grobo opisano, da so odvisni in neodvisni, da mora biti posemezni zahtevek v enem stavku, ipd., čiste osnove, ne podajo pa naprimer pogostih napak, niti za pisanje zahtevkov, niti za pisanje same prijave.

Drži, da je urad "pooblastil" posameznike (patentne pisarne) za pisanje prijav, zahtevkov, vendar ne vem, kako naj pravnik ve, kaj je bistvo nekega mehanizma, in kako naj zaščiti delovanje le tega. Poleg tega da izstavi račun v velikosti 3-4 X strošek prijave patnta.
Sicer je res, da je to le investicija, pa vendar.

Za dober izum, prava iznajdba ob prave času, pred ekspanzijo posameznega izdelka na trgu se mora podati prijava.

Ali prav razumem, da svetujete vložiti patentno prijavo, nato pa z izumom v javnost? Razkriti izum javnosti, kot tudi vsem potencialnim licenčnim izdelovalcem?

Čemu potem podpisati pogodbo o nerazkritju s podjetjem, ki bi naj dalo izum v razvoj izdelka? Ali po po razkritju izuma javnosti sploh kdo zaintereseiran za nakup licence?
oziroma
Torej če je izum aktualen in dober, obstaja verjetnost, da bo mnogo zainteresiranih, ampak kako potem zaščititi - tržiti izum? Verjetno jih bo kar nekaj le kopiralo, nato pa tožbe zoper še nepodeljen patent?

in še, npr. da je vložena prijava za SI patent, za katerega ne zagotavljajo sodnega varstva,

Ali se naj zavlačuje s podelitvijo patenta, saj lahko v času postopka prilagajaš zahtevke?

in šele nato vloži WIPO prijava, in nato tožbe zoper kršitelje?

marsikaj je za razmisliti.

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OdgovorNapisal/-a andrej777 » 30.1.2006 9:00

Če ti neko stvar izdeluješ doma in jo nato en patentira lahko ti to še vedno delaš brez plačila pravic za patent. Nimaš pa pravice razpolaganja in prodajanja patentnih pravic. Ubistvtu se ti prizna kot da bi kupu patent.

Vsaj v našem zakoniku piše tako.
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OdgovorNapisal/-a mallek » 30.1.2006 16:50

Drži, ampak lahko proizvajaš le za svoje potrebe. Pa še to moraš dokazati, da si proizvajal oziroma znal proizvesti to že pred podeljenim ozirokma objavljenim patentom. Prodajati pa nikakor ne smeš, brez licence ne moreš kaj, niti slučajno pa ne moreš razpolagati z patentnimi pravicami drugega.

Ni res, se ti ne prizna kot da bi kupil patent.

Zakon je poln lukenj. Veliko je odvisno od zahtevkov patenta. Zahtevki oziroma njihove pomanjkljivosti pa potem nekateri izkoriščajo za izdelovanje neke verzije, slabše različice izdelka po patenta.

V bistvu se jih mnogo preživlja že s tem, da iščejo luknje - napake v patentnih zahtevkih, in na ta račun prav lepo služijo-živijo.

Zakon....???
Vsak si ga prilagaja sebi v prid.

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OdgovorNapisal/-a tlozej » 30.1.2006 19:09

Mariborca-n:
Če bi bil moj izum se nebi dal tako lahko.

Nisem pravnik samo klko vem o pravu se ga da zvijat, izrabljat, prirejat, z njim dokazat da če ispustiš kroglo na zemljo da nebo padla na tla ampak bo jo odneslo navzgor...


Zvija ga pa bolje tisti, ki ima več denarja... :-?
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OdgovorNapisal/-a mallek » 30.1.2006 21:36

Kot že napisano, amerikanci so naredili iz patenta, oziroma postopka pridobitve le tega, celo znanost oziroma umetnost spreobračanja zakonov, povedi, stavkov, besednih zvez, besed, še več, končnice besede lahko odločajo na sodišču, gdo ima prav.

umetnost pisanja patentnih zahtevkov (na kratko):


Pitfalls and Traps in Claim Drafting
or, "So you want to write you own patent?"
First, we have to give the usual disclaimers - imagine a banner is appearing across your monitor, saying "Professional Patent Attorney on Closed Course - Kids, don't try this at home."
In other words, writing patent claims is really a job for a professional patent attorney or agent. We strongly urge you not to write final claims, but rather to prepare the best outline of your invention you can, and let a professional write the actual claims. If you must write claims, then at least have a professional (preferably one at Brown & Michaels) review them before you file. The money you spend then will save you thousands later on, and might save you from having a patent declared invalid later on (or discovering that what you thought was a very broad patent was, in fact, very narrow).
That said, let's proceed with the "the Top Ten Beginner's Mistakes in Patent Drafting".

10. Basic claim structure mistakes - violations of claim grammar
Of course, claims should be proofread for all of the grammatical rules you learned in elementary school - correct spelling, agreement of subject and verb, singulars and plurals, etc. This pitfall refers to the special rules of claim grammar - the legal and customary requirements of claim structure itself.
• A claim is a sentence. It must start with a capital letter, and end with a period - and those must be the only capital letters or periods in the claim.
Right: 1. A widget comprising a power supply, a headlamp and a flasher connecting the power supply and the headlamp.
Wrong: 1. A widget. The widget has a Power Supply and a Headlamp. A Flasher connects the power supply and headlamp. This is three sentences, not one, and there are extraneous capital letters.
• It is best to break the claim up into outline subsections, if at all possible. The subsections may be identified with outline letters or numbers, and usually end with semicolons. The next to last element usually has "and" at the end. Use indenting to show the levels of the outline sections.
Right:
1. A widget comprising:
a) a power supply;
b) a headlamp; and
c) a flasher connecting the power supply and the headlamp.
Wrong: (periods after sections, also periods after outline letters, misuse of "and")
1. A widget comprising:
a. a power supply.
b. and a headlamp.
c. and a flasher connecting the power supply and the headlamp.

9. Choice of connecting words: "Comprising" vs. "consisting of" or "having"
"Connecting words" or "transition words" are the words which go between an element in a claim and the list of things which make up the element. Each has its own special meaning, and you can severely limit your claim by the choice of the wrong word.
• "comprising" or "comprises" ("open" language) - the device has at least the list of things which follow "comprising", but might have other things also. This is the preferred transitional word for most situations.
• "including", "containing" or "characterized by" are equivalent to "comprising", but are not recommended in US patent practice.
1. An improved windshield washer fluid comprising water, soap and acetic acid.
This claim would cover washer fluid with these ingredients, and anything else you cared to mix with it - coloring, alcohol to keep it from freezing, perfume to make it smell, whatever.
• "consisting of" ("closed" transition language) - the device would have the following list of elements and nothing else. In a chemical claim, the claimed compound has only the listed components, and no others. An accused product, method, or chemical which has additional components will not infringe.
1. An improved windshield washer fluid consisting of water, soap and acetic acid.
This claim would cover washer fluid with only these ingredients - add alcohol, and it does not infringe.
• "consisting essentially of" - the device has the following list, and possibly some unimportant other things which do not materially effect the basic and novel characteristics of the invention. This is normally only used in chemical claims, where what you mean is that there might be traces of other chemicals, but mostly the substance is made up of the recited list. Unless you really mean this limitation, it is best not to use this transitional phrase.
1. An improved windshield washer fluid consisting essentially of water, soap and acetic acid.
The scope of this claim is not really clear. It would cover washer fluid with only these ingredients, plus unimportant additives - the perfume, perhaps. Add alcohol, and it probably does not infringe, since that might change the basic characteristics of the fluid.
• "having", "composed of", - it is best not to use these transitional words or phrases, as their meaning is not clear. The USPTO rules say they "must be interpreted in light of the specification". The Examiner (and a court) may interpret them as open or closed - you won't know until it is too late.
1. An improved windshield washer fluid having water, soap and acetic acid.
It is impossible to say what this claim covers, without analyzing the entire patent application - did the specification indicate any other ingredients were possible or desirable? Were these the only ingredients ever mentioned?

8. Inconsistent terminology
We all learned in Junior High not to use the same word over and over again when we're writing. When you are writing claims forget this rule! Always use the same word to refer to the same thing. Use of alternative words or synonyms might please a literary critic, but a patent examiner or court will take it as implying that you meant different things by the different words. In patent work a foolish consistency is not the hobgoblin of small minds (with apologies to Emerson).
Right:
1. A chainsaw comprising a bar, a motor driving a sprocket having a plurality of teeth, and a chain, the bar being mounted to the motor, the chain being wrapped around the bar and having teeth meshing with the teeth of the sprocket, such that the motor drives the chain around the bar.
Wrong:
1. A chainsaw comprising a bar, a motor driving a sprocket having a plurality of teeth, and a chain, the chain support being mounted to the engine, the cutter being wrapped around the chain guide and having tangs meshing with the protrusions of the gear, such that the power source drives the knives around the slots.

7. Claiming a result
This is a difficult concept for most inventors to grasp, but it is very important. You may have had the result in mind when you made the invention, but it's the invention on which you get the patent, not the result.
That is to say, you cannot claim a result. You can only claim an apparatus or method which accomplishes the result.
For example: You have had a problem removing the lug nuts from automobile wheels. You discover that if you smear a mixture of axle grease and graphite on the threads before you put the nuts on, they're easier to take off the next time.
You cannot claim:
1. An anti-seize mixture which allows lug nuts to be removed without seizing.
or
1. A method of removing lug nuts more easily than before.
You can claim:
1. An anti-seize mixture comprising axle grease and graphite.
or
1. A method of preventing nuts from seizing to the threads of wheel lugs comprising the steps of removing the nuts, smearing a mixture of axle grease and graphite to the threads, and threading the nuts onto the threads.
If you need to mention the result to make the novelty or application clearer, you do it by defining the invention first, perhaps defining the application in the claim preamble, then saying "such that..." or "wherein..." and giving the result, defined in terms of the invention.
1. An anti-seize mixture for application to the threads of wheel lugs, comprising axle grease and graphite, such that when the mixture is applied to the threads, nuts are prevented from seizing to the threads.
Use this approach sparingly, however. If the mixture were novel, in and of itself, it is much better simply to claim the mixture and omit the "such that" clause entirely.

6. Too little detail in claims
Don't leave anything out of a claim which is necessary to distinguish the claim from the prior art.
Basically, you should ask yourself, "is every part of my invention which makes my invention new compared to others, included in the broadest claim"?
This is a bit of a tightrope walk, because you also do not want to include anything in the broadest claim which is not necessary (see the next section).

5. Too much detail in claims, claiming elements too specifically, overuse of adjectives
Look at every single word in the claim and ask, "is this really necessary to describe my invention in its broadest sense?" If the answer is, "no", drop it. If the answer is "no, but the invention works better with this element", put it in a dependent claim.
Remember that under the "all elements rule", in order to infringe a patent a product has to include every element (item or limitation) in at least one claim. Therefore, every element you put in your broadest claim is one more opportunity for an infringer to escape liability by leaving it out.
a. Too Much Detail - claiming outside of the invention
Be particularly sensitive to elements which are included because the device needs them, rather than the invention. For example, suppose your invention is an improved spring for an automobile suspension, in which the novelty is that the spring is made of reticulated turbonium (an imaginary substance having superior qualities). Certainly the car needs tires, and the spring needs to attach to a frame, but you would not want to positively claim the tires or the frame in the broadest claim.
Wrong:
1. An automotive suspension, comprising two axles, two wheels on each axle, a tire on each wheel, a frame, and four springs made of reticulated turbonium, each spring being mounted to the frame and to an axle.
Right:
1. A spring for an automobile suspension, made of reticulated turbonium.
Note: sometimes you may want to include claims to a larger assembly including the invention, so as to possibly have a larger base on which to calculate royalties. The first claim above might be worth including for this purpose, but not as the broadest claim.
Omit standard environmental parts - cases, covers, batteries or power supplies, on/off switches, indicator lights or readouts (unless essential to the novelty), feet or mounting brackets, wheels, etc.
b. Too Much Detail - claiming inside the invention
Avoid positively claiming conventional elements which are part of the invention, where the "person having ordinary skill in the art" would be able to instinctively insert the element, even if it is unstated.
For example, avoid claiming fasteners, hinges, latches, nuts, bolts, screws, glue, etc. Incorporate these minor elements, if you must, through the linking words between the necessary claim elements.
Wrong:
1. A medicine cabinet, comprising: a box, a mirror, and two hinges connected to the mirror and the box.
2. A box having four sides and a bottom attached to the four sides with two-part epoxy glue.
Right:
1. A medicine cabinet comprising a box, and a mirror pivotally connected to the box.
2. A box having four sides and a bottom.
c. Claiming elements too specifically, overuse of adjectives
Resist the temptation to overdescribe, unless the specificity is essential to the patentability of the invention.
Wrong:
1. A widget comprising a cylindrical shaft gronkheiser and two polypropylene portoflan armatures connected to the gronkheiser by number four Fahnstock clips.
Right:
1. A widget comprising a plurality of portoflan armatures connected to a gronkheiser.
Note: Only indicate how many of an element you need if you really need that number, and no other. Otherwise, use "at least one..." (that is, one or more) or "a plurality of..." (which means two or more).
Be suspicious of any adjective in a claim - must a shaft be "cylindrical", or would a square or flat one work? Sure, the hinge you're using is rectangular, but there are lots of very nice looking bat-wing hinges which would work as well.
Is there a generic term for the word - "plastic" instead of "polyethelene", "metal" in place of "aluminum", "fastener" in place of "screw", etc.? If the metal must be steel, must it be "stainless steel", or would just "steel" work?
Can you claim the element in terms of its properties rather than its composition? For example, "resilient material" in place of "rubber", or "non-conductive spacer" instead of "nylon rod", and so on.
Try not to use specific numbers in claims, if at all possible, or claim a range or minimum/maximum instead of a number. For example, if all you need is a saline solution, say so, not "2% saline". If your preferred embodiment uses 10% sodium, but the invention will work with 2%-20%, use the range in the broad claim and the specific number in a dependent claim (but be sure there is wording in the specification to back up any numbers or ranges you use). If a given chemical is present in concentrations of "0-10%", this really means you don't need it at all (because a concentration of 0% means "none"), so move it to a dependent claim.
Avoid relative terms, unless absolutely necessary. Even if the Examiner will allow you to get away with them (many won't), they add an element of uncertainty to the claim. What is "large" to you might be "small" to someone else. How many is "many", how few is "few"? How close is "close"?
Never use "larger", "smaller", "heavier", etc., unless you are specifically comparing two elements in the claim. That is, it's OK to claim "... a first flange, a second flange smaller than the first flange ...", but not "A camera having a lens with a filter ring, in which the filter ring is smaller."
Unless your invention must always be built and used in a specific orientation, avoid absolute positions - "above", "below", "right", "left". One recent case turned on whether it really mattered if a claim element which was claimed as "below" another element really had to be below, or if it could be above it. Needless to say, it's hard to argue that "below" means "above", and the patentee lost. Generally, saying one element is "adjacent" to another will work in most cases. In fact, don't list position at all if you don't have to - just say how the elements relate, not how they're located.

4. Dependent claims which broaden or contradict independent claims
The function of a dependent claim is to narrow the claim upon which it depends. Therefore, be sure that all dependent claims introduce additional restrictions or add additional elements or define terms in a narrowing way from their parent claims.
Example: Assume the main claim is:
1. A widget comprising at least three gronkheisers, a portoflan armature having a length of 3-5 meters coupled to the three gronkheisers, and a nylon webbing surrounding the gronkheisers.
The dependent claims are:
2. The widget of claim 1, in which there are two gronkheisers. Wrong - the main claim says there have to be at least three gronkheisers, so two is broader.
3. The widget of claim 1, in which the nylon webbing is plastic. Wrong - "plastic" is a generic term for the specific "nylon" - these two claims should be swapped, with "plastic" in claim 1, and "nylon" in claim 3
4. The widget of claim 1, in which there is no webbing. Wrong - dependent claims must add elements. not remove them. This claim would be broader than claim 1, since it would define a widget with only four elements instead of five.
5.The widget of claim 1, in which the length of the portoflan armature is 9 meters. Wrong - claim 1 said the length is between three and five meters, and 9 meters is more than five, so no armature could fit into both this claim and its parent.
6. The widget of claim 1, in which there is a mounting bracket in place of the webbing. Wrong - you can't substitute elements this way. You should pick a generic term which encompasses both options, and make each a dependent claim, instead.
7. The widget of claim 5, in which the mounting bracket is 1 meter in length. Wrong - there is no mounting bracket in claim 5, it's added by claim 6. This claim should be dependent on claim 6, or be changed to read "further comprising a mounting bracket 1 meter in length" so that it both adds and defines the bracket.
8. The widget of claim 1, further comprising a mounting bracket attached to the webbing. Right - this adds an element, so it is narrower than claim 1.
9. The widget of claim 1, in which the portoflan armature is made of ferrous metal. Right - this further narrows the construction of the armature.
10. The widget of claim 1, in which the length of the portoflan armature is between 3.5 and 4 meters. Right - this range narrows the range in the main claim. BUT - be sure that somewhere in the specification it says that 3.5-5 meters is preferred, or explains why this range has significance.

3. Not claiming the invention
This should be fairly simple, but it is amazing how often claims miss the point entirely. Don't get so carried away by the art of writing claims that you lose sight of the goal - describing your invention.
Is the invention a method, but you've written apparatus-type claims, or vice versa?
Have you spent so much time defining how each of the parts of the device interconnects, that you have forgotten to claim the reason for the interconnection?
For example, your invention might be using a spool valve in a particular way to control an automatic transmission - say, when you push the spool valve all the way in, it shifts the transmission into Park. You might write a very involved claim, something like:
1. A control system for an automatic transmission, comprising:
a spool valve having a spool and a sleeve, the spool having four lands ... (etc.) ... the sleeve having five ports, the first port located ...
the spool having a first position, a second position ...
a first passage connecting the first port of the sleeve to... (something in the transmission)
a second passage connecting the second port of the sleeve to ... (something else)
... and so on defining all the passages...
That's all fine, but in the end, you might discover you had been so wrapped up in describing all the lands on the spool valve and the passages between them, that you forgot to see if all of this structure really accomplishes the invention. Is there anything in the claim which says that when the valve is moved to one end, the transmission shifts into Park? If not, you've missed the point.
It would have been much better claiming:
1. A control system for an automatic transmission comprising a spool valve having a spool and a sleeve, the valve being coupled to a supply of fluid and at least a transmission park input which shifts the transmission into Park, wherein when the spool is moved to an end of travel in the sleeve, hydraulic fluid is routed to the park input, shifting the transmission into Park.

2. Claiming too broadly, so that claims read on known prior art
You want your claims to be as broad as possible, but not too broad. You don't want the claim to be so broad that it applies to other devices or methods which are old (prior art).
If your invention is an improved monkey wrench using a rack-and-pinion arrangement to adjust the jaws, be sure that is what the claim says. It might seem broader in the short run to claim "a rack and pinion", instead of "a monkey wrench comprising a movable jaw with a rack, and a rotatable pinion gear engaging the rack," but that would be counterproductive.
Your invention really isn't a rack and pinion, as such. Rack and pinion gear sets have been known for many decades. By claiming the invention in that way, you have asked for broader claims than you are entitled to. The Examiner will almost certainly cite automotive steering against your invention, and he would be right. Claiming a wrench using the rack and pinion would have properly narrowed the field of search to tools, and the claim would have been allowable.
In this example, you would be too broad if you left out the word "pinion" -"a monkey wrench comprising a movable jaw with a rack, and a rotatable gear engaging the rack". Monkey wrenches with worm gears were known before your invention, so you need the narrowing word "pinion" to make your wrench patentable.

1. Not seeing past the preferred embodiment
It is tempting to take your invention as it presently exists, and describe every element in extreme detail - as a proud inventor, you spent lots of time polishing your invention, and making sure it was just as good as it could be. It took you months or years of trial and error to figure out that the portoflan armature works best if it's made of polypropylene instead of bakelite (or the even more generic "plastic"), or that the cheapest fastener is a number four Fahnstock clip, or that two armatures are better than one or three, so you really want to say these things in the broadest claim. That invention is your baby, and it just couldn't be improved upon. Any variation would just not be worth considering... BUT... When you're writing your claims you have to see beyond the perfected prototype you have sitting in your garage, to make sure that the patent you will eventually get will not be easily evaded.
For every element, you need to ask yourself, "How could this be changed, and it would still be my invention?" Think "changed" rather than "improved" - for an infringer may well choose to do something less well to avoid your patent claims. Push the limits - how big a change could you make to each element, before you would look at the result and say, "that is no longer my invention, I don't care if someone else makes that."
For example, suppose you invented a new lathe with an improved jaw design.
• The best way to build your invention would have adjustable legs, so that you could easily level the lathe and set it at any height. What if your competitor built it with fixed-length legs? Sure, that wouldn't be as good - but would it still be your invention? Yes, it would - the legs don't really affect the novelty of the invention, and you can always put a book under the short leg. Therefore, your broadest claim shouldn't include the adjustable legs. Put them in dependent claims.
• Your prototype has a motor with a geared transmission to vary speed - could you do the same thing with a belt drive and selectable pulleys? With electronic speed control? Just claim a "variable speed motor drive", and put the variations in dependent claims.
• Your design was made for chair legs, so the jaws have a range of one to three inches - would the lathe work if it were scaled up for fenceposts or down for clockworks? Probably. Don't claim dimensions unless they're essential.
• For that matter, does the fact that you made the lathe for chair legs matter? Probably not. Don't claim "A lathe for turning chair legs..." when just "A lathe..." will do.
There is a good reason this is the Number One Mistake - more than any other, this is why so many self-prepared patents are much narrower than they need to be. This is one of the best reasons for having a patent attorney review your claims at the very least - better yet, to have a patent attorney write them in the first place. Your attorney will not have the same attachment to your baby as you will, and he or she will be able to take a fresh look at the invention and say, "what if we did this...?"

And a few bonus points...
• Don't use Trademarks in claims
Always use generic descriptions rather than trademarks in claims. A trademark is a manufacturer's indication that a particular product is his, not a description of the product. Therefore, you don't want to refer to an element in your claim by its trademark name because:
1. The composition of a product made under a given trademark may change over time - remember "New Coke®"? Today's Kodachrome® film bears little resemblance to the Kodachrome® of the 1960's, and the same is true of many products, while the generic description would remain the same. If your claims depend upon a particular formulation of a product, you're better off specifying it by description, rather than run the risk of having your claim become inoperable by an unpredictable change by the trademark owner. Many Examiners object to the use of trademarks in claims for just this reason.
2. Your patent will live for twenty years from your filing date. During that time a company might go out of business, or change the name of the product, or the original manufacturer might abandon the mark and another pick it up for a completely different product. In such a case, your claim would become essentially meaningless - an infringer might not be able to figure out what "Xardoz®" was fifteen years ago, or might be misled into believing it is something completely different because someone else is making something unrelated today.
3. Others may make the same product under different names - do you want to give your competitor an opening to argue he's not using Velcro®, but Hammerloc® or GripIt® or the generic "hook-and-loop fastener material"? Sure, the argument could be made (and might win) that the terms are all equivalent products, but why offer the opportunity?
Our website has more information on trademarks here.
• Keep claims directed to different invention types (method, apparatus) separate
It is possible to write claims which are a mixture of method and apparatus:
10. A widget made by the method of claim 1.
11. A method of using the widget of claim 10, comprising the steps of...
Many Examiners will not accept mixed apparatus and method claims, others will. It's best not to confuse things.
• Claim elements in a product or apparatus claim must be things. Claim elements in a method claim must be steps. Don't mix them up.
This is best explained by bad examples. The following are wrong:
1. (mix of things and step) A widget comprising:
a portoflan armature; (thing)
a gronkheiser containing methylene blue;(thing)
threading the portoflan armature and inserting it into the gronkheiser; (step)
spreading the methylene blue through the portoflan armature. (step)
2. (apparatus claim described as method) A method of spreading methlyene blue comprising:
a portoflan armature;(thing)
a gronkheiser containing methylene blue; (thing)
wherein the methylene blue is spread through the portoflan armature. (result of using the thing)
These claims would be acceptable:
1. (apparatus claim) A widget comprising:
a portoflan armature;
a gronkheiser containing methylene blue, threaded to the portoflan armature;
wherein the methylene blue passes through the portoflan armature for dispensing.
2. (method claim) A method of spreading methlyene blue comprising the steps of:
threading a portoflan armature onto a gronkheiser;
filling the gronkheiser with methylene blue;
spreading the methylene blue through the portoflan armature.
• Use of "means plus function..." language
The patent law (section 112, sixth paragraph) specifically permits you to describe an element in a claim not in terms of its structure, but in terms of what it does:
An element in a claim for a combination may be expressed as a means or step for performing a specified function without the recital of structure, material, or acts in support thereof, and such claim shall be construed to cover the corresponding structure, material, or acts described in the specification and equivalents thereof.
This is called "means plus function" (or "step plus function", in method claims). Once upon a time, we patent attorneys liked "means plus function" language in claims because it seemed to allow us to claim all possible variations on an element without having to come up with some generic word or think of every variation and name it separately. For example, you could claim "a power supply", but would that cover a battery? If you called it "means for supplying electrical power", then that seemed to cover both (and a solar panel, steam-powered generator, and so on).
Then, after everyone spent many years of writing everything in "means plus function" form, a court changed the rules - it said that a "means plus function" element covers only those means which were described or shown in the patent. In most cases, you wouldn't have bothered to explicitly show the power supply, battery, solar panel, etc., so that very broad "means plus function" now meant only those means you specifically called out - maybe the power supply and battery, but not the solar cell or steam generator. "Means plus function" went from broad to narrow, overnight.
Now, it is best to avoid "means plus function" language if at all possible. If you do use it, be sure to list every possible variation on the "means" in the specification, and maybe include one or more dependent claims listing them, too.
• Words to avoid:
o "predetermined" - this implies that the quantity is determined before you start the method. What if it can be calculated "on the fly?" What if it can be just picked randomly? If you must use an adjective at all, use "selected" or "calculated".
o "exactly" - how exact is "exact"? Don't give an infringer room to wiggle if his element is very slightly different.
o "adapted to" - this is used in claims, but often it is objected to by examiners, for good reason. Just how is the element "adapted" to perform the function? Maybe it would be better to spell that out instead, or leave out the function from the claim. Phrases such as "can be used for", or "could be" or "might be" or "is made to" have the same problem.
o "eliminate" and similar absolute statements - for example, "the widget being mounted so as to eliminate vibration." What if an infringer doesn't quite "eliminate" the vibration, but only limits it severely? At what point is it "eliminated" so as to infringe the claim? Say "limit" or "reduce" instead.

• Avoid Alternatives
Many Examiners object to claims written in the alternative -
12. The widget of claim 1, further comprising a portoflan armature made of metal or plastic.
These claims are best written as a number of different dependent claims, or as a Markush Group. If you haven't defined the element yet, it should be in its own claim, with the alternatives in claims dependent upon it.
12. The widget of claim 1, further comprising a portoflan armature.
13. The widget of claim 12, in which the portoflan armature is metal.
14. The widget of claim 12, in which the portoflan armature is plastic.


p.s.: če bi prepral ta članek pred tem, kot sem oddal prijavo za patent,.... uf, uf, uf. ŽAL SEM ČLANEK NAŠEL ŠELE PRED KRATKIM,

vseeno hvala vsem za razmišljanja

p.s.2: vsi potencialni vlagatelji patentne prijave, OBVEZNO ČTIVO!!!, pa veliko uspeha :)
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OdgovorNapisal/-a silogy » 30.1.2006 21:58

preverjanje pravilnosti zahtevkov, žal le v angleškem jeziku pa vseeno, je pa zastonj

http://www.bustpatents.com/claims.htm
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Guidelines for Authorities and Offices

OdgovorNapisal/-a silogy » 3.2.2006 15:04

napotki za pisanje prijave, zahtevkov,...;

http://www.wipo.int/pct/en/texts/gdlines.htm

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